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Volume 4, page 373:
He
[Sir John de Dinham (d. 1332)]
m., in or before 1310, Margaret.(b)
Note b:
... It is usually stated
that the wife of this John de Dynham was Joan or Margaret, da. of Sir Guy de Briene,
but this is an error, arising from the fact that a Joan de Briene married Oliver de
Dynham (Close Roll, 26 Edw. III, m. 29: Patent Roll, 42 Edw. III, p. 2, m. 30), which
Oliver, who died 29 June 1351 (Ch. Inq. p. m., Edw. III, file 113, no. 10), was s.
and h. of another Oliver, yr. br. of the said John de Dynham.
Dr Hannes Kleineke has identified Margaret as a member of the Botreaux family, based on her heraldic seal attached to an agreement dated 29 March 1343 concerning her dower; in an associated plea, Sir Reginald de Botriaux, Sir William de Botriaux, Master Walter de Botriaux and others had appeared on her behalf [citing Cornwall Record Office, AR/1/397; communicated to soc.genealogy.medieval by John Ravilious in May 2004]. John Ravilious suggested on chronological grounds that she could be a sister of Reynold de Botreaux (d. 1346).
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[Dr Kleineke referred to his Ph. D. thesis,
The Dinham Family in the Later Middle Ages (London University, 1998).
Item last updated: 3 May 2004.]
Volume 4, page 380 (as modified by volume 14):
He
[Sir John Dinham (d. 1500/1)]
m., 2ndly, (lic. 26 Mar. 1488) [Lambeth, Morton 1, f. 13]
Elizabeth, da. of Robert (WILLOUGHBY),
LORD WILLOUGHBY DE BROKE,
by Blanche, elder da. and coh. of John CHAMPERNOUN, of
Portlemouth, Devon, Kimcote and Worthington, co. Leicester, &c.
According to Complete Peerage, volume 1, page 250, Elizabeth, daughter of Robert (Willoughby), Lord Willoughby de Broke - presumably the same woman - is said to have married, as his first wife, William (Fitz Alan), Earl of Arundel (d. 1543/4).
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[Leo van de Pas pointed out this addition in February 2004.
Item last updated: 30 March 2004.]
Volume 4, page 381:
His
[Sir John Dinham's (d. 1500/1)]
coheirs were his four sisters or their representatives. (1) Sir
Edmund Carewe, of Mohun's Ottery and Monkton, Devon (who d.
24 June 1513), s. and h. of Sir John Carewe, of the same, by Margery,
1st sister of Lord Dinham.
Volume 4, page 382, note a:
Patent Roll, 17 Hen. VII, p. 1, m. 16 (15).
The writ describes the coheirs
as in the inquisitions - except that Margery is called Margaret, Katherine is called
the 3rd da., and Joan the 4th - stating in addition the names of the fathers, then
deceased, of Edmund Carewe and John Arundelle.
Despite the statement in the Patent Roll, it appears that Edmund's father was Nicholas Carew, of Ottery Mohun, etc., Devon, who died 16 (or 18) November 1470.
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[This contradiction was pointed out by John Brandon in July 2002; evidence for the correct identification was provided by Douglas Richardson.]